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I got one thing to say "WE WILL PREVAIL"he is a us paratrooper and we dont leave no one behind.

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DefaultArab-American paratrooper faces deportation after Afghan service



This is simply outrageous.

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Very much ashame

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Wow! Thats very sad.

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I highly doubt this man will be deported, it will work itself out.

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It is, I got one of the first Emails to me a week ago, the Association of Patriotic Arab American in the Military sent out letters to us subscribed and tried to get everyone invovlved. His chain of command are also endorsing his service.

Its so unfair how he i sbeing treated this way. That would make other Arabs be afraid of enlisting.

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I've supervised countless Mexicans who are in the US illegally, on probation or parole for drug-dealing, assault, and other activities, who the government won't deport.

I wish this man the best.

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Thats what I thought of too gaijin - we deport immigrants serving in the military, yet we allow illegal alien criminals to remain here...

Absolutely unbelievable

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As my wife is a legal immigrant to the US, I know all too well that "irregularities" in paperwork are almost inevitable. There is so much info to provide, and so much conflicting information provided by different INS sources, that the process is often stacked against the person who wants to immigrate legally. I did most of the paperwork for my wife, and I was confused half the time. I know other Americans, who like me, are married to Japanese women, and are having a tough time navigating the immigrant visa application process.

It sounds to me like the US Government is making a conscious choice to play hardass with this guy, irrelevant of the fact that he is a soldier who has served honorably and simply made a mistake.

If it is because he is Arab/Muslim, that's shameful, and plays right into the hands of those we are fighting, giving them a great propaganda victory. Is it worth it?


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I've supervised countless Mexicans who are in the US illegally, on probation or parole for drug-dealing, assault, and other activities, who the government won't deport.

I wish this man the best.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

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That's exactly what I was thinking.

I second that. Come on, he's a soldier who fought for America's war on terror. Should'nt there be some leniency even if there was some 'irregularities'? Must be some guy looking for some 'show'. JACKA**

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I remember an immigration attorney told me that there were a whole bunch of people who fought in Vietnam for the US that had irregular paperwork, but that the INS (as it then was) had *never* ultimately gone through with deporting any of them once they could establish they were veterans.

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As my wife is a legal immigrant to the US, I know all too well that "irregularities" in paperwork are almost inevitable. There is so much info to provide, and so much conflicting information provided by different INS sources, that the process is often stacked against the person who wants to immigrate legally. I did most of the paperwork for my wife, and I was confused half the time. I know other Americans, who like me, are married to Japanese women, and are having a tough time navigating the immigrant visa application process.

It sounds to me like the US Government is making a conscious choice to play hardass with this guy, irrelevant of the fact that he is a soldier who has served honorably and simply made a mistake.

If it is because he is Arab/Muslim, that's shameful, and plays right into the hands of those we are fighting, giving them a great propaganda victory. Is it worth it?


I can agree US immigration services are horrible at handling immigrant papers

and this guys being deported? NO WAY

the judge will let him go free

if convicted drug dealers who had prior deportations can come back get caught and not be deported this guy will win hands down

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I find taking the Guardian seriously a mistake on these type USA issues. I would say the same if the New York Times published the article. I am not questioning how stupid Immigration can be, just the tone of the article.

I wish the guy luck. Personally I think it will work out for him, regardless as to how the article paints the future.

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The Guardian:

A highly decorated Arab-American sergeant in the US army, who is currently serving as a paratrooper in Afghanistan, faces deportation on his return to the United States because of an irregularity in his immigration papers.

Sgt Hicham Benkabbou has been served with an order to stand trial for deportation as soon as he arrives home, despite the fact that he has been on active service in Afghanistan for almost two years with the 508th parachute infantry regiment, known as the Red Devils.

 

Those idiots at ICE, another failed Bush endeavor.

 

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Anonymous said...

I'm not seeing how its the Army making a fool of itself. DHS handles immagration and deportation. This appears to be a case where left hand and right hand aren't working together.

December 3, 2007 4:22 PM  

Danny said...

The people who work in ICE ought to be ashamed of themselves. While they are trying to penalise the brave Sgt, currently deployed to Afghanistan, they are allowing contless numbers of Lebanese Shia Hezbollah fighters enter the USA at Detroit Airport,and settle in the Dearborn area.
Most ICE employees probably cant are totally oblivious to who a=our friends or enemies are.
In fact, recently met Federal Agent, who didnt know the difference between Indian people and muslim Arabs!!!

December 3, 2007 5:21 PM  

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I agree with the other anonymous. This is an immigration court issue, as presented to them by DHS-ICE.

This has nothing to do with the Army. Has the Army filed violations under the UCMJ for any of these issues? No.


Tell it to the federal magistrate who issued the order.

December 3, 2007 5:38 PM  

Mahmud said...

"This has nothing to do with the Army. Has the Army filed violations under the UCMJ for any of these issues? No.


Tell it to the federal magistrate who issued the order."

While it may be a DHS/ICE issue, the fact that it is being dealt with in the open means that it is the army that will be hurt the most. Someone should have dealt with this behind closed doors before it came out into the open, and that is why the army fucked up. Casting their hands up and saying 'not my fault' may be technically true, but someone should have made sure that it didn't get this far, and that it didn't get out to the media. Informal meetings and persuasive powers can be quite powerful in bureaucracies, even if there isn't a direct chain of command.


If I was a prospective Muslim recruit for the US military with language skills, or someone with a green card who wanted to become a citizen, I'd look at this situation with a great deal of dismay. And that will weaken the US army, both in how it is perceived and its effectiveness

December 3, 2007 5:58 PM  

Abu Muqawama said...

"If I was a prospective Muslim recruit for the US military with language skills, or someone with a green card who wanted to become a citizen, I'd look at this situation with a great deal of dismay. And that will weaken the US army, both in how it is perceived and its effectiveness"

Mahmud is right. This is an Army problem, even if it's a DHS cock-up.

December 3, 2007 6:25 PM  

Anonymous said...

It must be dealt with "in the open" because our court system is, ahem, "in the open." While not all immigration proceedings occur in open court, decisions, complaints, et al, are recorded documents open to public scrutiny.

We really don't know the extent of US Army involvement in this matter. Typically, the US Army is forced to react to these issues because it doesn't have legal officers sitting in a federal immigration magistrate's office.

Speculating, one might suggest that the Soldier was put on notice that a hearing was going to take place, the Soldier contacted his S-1 through his chain of command and they directed a legal response (which is to say, send us the complaint if its a civil matter).

This was done. The Army can't react to something unless it knows the nature of the facts alleged to be true by DHS/ICE.

DOJ and DOD apparently have worked out an agreement for such immigration matters, as illuminated in the article:

"The aggressive prosecution of the case has surprised immigration lawyers who point to a directive that advises officials against pressing to deport acting military personnel unless they have been involved in drug trafficking, crimes against children or violence, or unless they pose a danger to the public."

Now that the nature of the civil complaint has been received by the Army, the Army (on behalf of SGT Benkabbou) can respond to its merits (which seem, charitably, to be lacking).

If you want a society in which the US military very quietly suborns the rule of law by quashing civil complaints against Soldiers before they are served, then by all means start letting LTCs determine which federal court summons to acknowledge and which to forget.

December 3, 2007 8:19 PM  

Anonymous said...

I think it is screw-up by the DHS/ICE/Immigration Court/Fed Magistrate's part. Dont y'all think that if they knew thatthe SGT was deployed, they ough to have moresense to either quash the order on their own, or maybe do some diggingfor info? Now they look like a bunch of petty, insensitive bureaucrats persecuting a soldier who serving the USA y beingdeployed. Also that one agency of the Govt doesnot know what the otheragencies are doing.
Or might be a nasty, left-leaning, military-haning' iCE employees o ut to screw over the SGT.

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Arab-American paratrooper faces deportation after Afghan service
Guardian Unlimited ^ | December 3, 2007 | Ed Pilkington

Posted on 12/03/2007 5:58:39 PM PST by tyen

A highly decorated Arab-American sergeant in the US army, who is currently serving as a paratrooper in Afghanistan, faces deportation on his return to the United States because of an irregularity in his immigration papers.

 

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Immigration bureaucrats actively deny local efforts to enforce flagrant illegal immigration, but go after decorated, vetted paras. Whoever in immigration who backed pursuing this case needs to not only lose their cushy Federal government job for such stupidity, but lose their pension and be permamently barred from government jobs too, unless I'm missing some critical detail here.

 

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December 3rd, 2007 at 13:29:51  

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Thats pretty messed up. I don't suppose his being an Arab- American has anything to do with it, naww.

 

 

 

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December 3rd, 2007 at 17:48:32  

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After 2 years of combat, they should be GIVING this guy citizenship, not taking it away. Chimpy and the Repukes HATE OUR TROOPS. This is worse than when Chimpy welshed on those enlistment bonuses.

 

 

 

 

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